I just noticed the timer for the Conquer buff is slow. Each second takes 20% longer than it should. So 1000 seconds, (or 16 minutes, 40 seconds), in reality takes 20 minutes!
If there is one relatively minor change I could get you to make, after a reset, whether Ascending, Rebirthing, leaving the Abyss, or hitting Infinity, please disable the GCNP. Nothing more frustrating than realizing you forgot to disable it and have been sitting at Stage 1 for the past 5 minutes...
The infinite leveling you unlock for the Tree after reaching Infinity is a fundamentally broken system. The high costs and low Infinite scaling for every single skill except Strength makes activating it for 95% of a run useless. Strength is the only one that is stronger with Infinite active, at least until you unlock Tier 5 Tree, where Strength's base scaling is high enough to surpass Infinite scaling. At that point it becomes worthless to activate any Infinite because, even if there were a Perk that becomes viable to activate Infinite scaling for, it's more valuable to keep the excess points for The Lord than to spend them.
And this makes the fact that every tier of Infinity lets you activate another Infinite scaling in the Tree the most worthless unlock in the entire game. If one Infinite is bordering on useless, then a second actually is useless, let alone a third or more...
You need to lower the cost for each level of Infinite for other Perks or increase their scaling. Otherwise this system is a complete waste.
yeah, i was thinking the same. i think a simple fix will be "for every infinity you get +1 tree point per level" so infinity 1 give you +2, infinity 7 give you +8
That's what I thought would happen. The first Infinity does give you 2 points per level, but the subsequent Tiers of Infinity don't increase it. Was honestly disappointed when I realized it didn't give another point...
Another Idea(how i interpreted the system first from the limited description): Upgrades persist until you infinity again. you end the ascension/rebirth with 5 levels in Wisdom? You will have those 5 levels at the start of the next run. No un-spec, maybe increasing costs? ending every run with another level in racer sounds like fun after like 50 runs
Would this be broken? Maybe.
Edit: actually, at least Strength and Racer would need hard limits and/or scaling costs on how many "Infinite levels" you coud have with this, because getting to 1000x damage and 10 APS sounds like it would break the game in half. anything else is a lot less broken
I've started playing a week or two ago and I must say, great work!
What I liked the most is that progress really feels earned and reaching a new prestige layer gives quite good powers.
I can't say what it is, but the game got me hooked pretty good.
That said, I've almost finished all content the game has to offer at the moment (trying to reach all Infinity milestones), so I'm looking forward for more.
I also have some suggestions for QoL features/changes.
Don't deactivate buffs when leaving the Abyss
Presets for buffs (put the ones you want in a list, prioritize the ones at the start for when you don't have enough active buffs available)
Ascension Shards and Rebirth Points should show a shortened number like XP does
"Buy All" Radiation Perks (maybe as an upgrade in the new Prestige Layer)
There are also some typos here and there, but it isn't a big deal. If you find some, just fix them, no biggie :D
Thanks for this experience, I've enjoyed it a lot!
thank you. Not sure if Im messing with my buffs ... any 3 buffs you would recommend for such boss fight ? currently Im set on combo[T3] extras life [T2] and sniper[T1]. Also just to make sure does picking a formation for boss fight makes any sense, seems cutting half of 2 stats harms more than the benefit of buff 1 ...
Well I think there are a couple of strategies for beating stage 39 boss for the first time and it's fun to work one out for yourself!
I'd say grinding rebirth points is the most beneficial as you unlock more buff slots, raise your stats and max lvl.
For a high damage, high risk, high reward based run you can choose First strike [T3], Combo and Conquer with T2 formation
For a more tank build maybe you could try Invisible [T3], Blood art [T3] and maybe Conquer as well with T1 formation
I guess T1 formation is good with the blood art buff as it heals you based on your max HP but overall I don't see many situations where T1 or T3 formation is useful.
Anyways, having any more buffs active is a nice addon. Good luck and have fun :D
Ty. I'll keep these notes in mind next update. "If you want a list of where descriptions can be improved, feel free to let me know" - I wouldn't mind such help if it doesn't bother you
Tree -> Reset description: The recover is going faster
to Recovery from death is faster.
Tree -> The Lord: Increased soul appear based on unspent points
to Increase soul appear chance based on unspent points
Buff -> Invisible: 33% that your DEF will be double when enemy hits you to 33% that your DEF doubles when an enemy hits you
35% to block the enemy attack to 1 DMG
to 35% to block an enemy attack to 1 DMG
Buff -> First Strike: Deal double DMG by First attack
to First attack deals double DMG
First attack can STUN Enemy for 1 second to First attack will STUN Enemy for 1 second (if there is no stun immunity for enemies)
Buff -> Traveller*: +1% DMG per COMBO [MAX- 30]; +1 COMBO per hit; COMBO Resets if you was hit by enemy
to +1% DMG per COMBO [MAX- 30]; +1 COMBO per hit; COMBO Resets if you get hit by an enemy
*Traveller is spelled Traveler
+1.25% DMG per COMBO [MAX- 40]; +1 COMBO per hit[50% to get additional COMBO]; COMBO Resets 75% if you was hit by enemy to +1.25% DMG per COMBO [MAX- 40]; +1 COMBO per hit[50% to get additional COMBO]; COMBO Resets 75% if you get hit by an enemy
+1.5% DMG per COMBO [MAX- 50]; +1.5 COMBO per hit; COMBO Resets 50% if you was hit by enemy
to +1.5% DMG per COMBO [MAX- 50]; +1.5 COMBO per hit; COMBO Resets 50% if you get hit by an enemy
+1.75% DMG per COMBO [MAX- 100]; +2 COMBO per hit; COMBO Resets if you was killed by enemy; +0.3 Attack per Second when COMBO is MAX
to +1.75% DMG per COMBO [MAX- 100]; +2 COMBO per hit; COMBO Resets if you get killed by an enemy; +0.3 Attack per Second when COMBO is MAX
Buff -> Blood Art: Heal HP equals to stage passed per second
to Heal HP equal to current stage per second (I assume the HP regen is equal to current stage)
Heal 5% HP when you kill enemy
to Heal 5% HP when you kill an enemy
Heal 2% from Max HP + [Stages Passed] after each Attack
to Heal 2% of Max HP + [current stage] after each Attack
Buff -> Fast Slash: You can hit additional time; -0.8 Attack per Second
to Hit an additional time; -0.8 Attack per Second (Assuming you always hit an additional time first tier)
45% to hit extra time; -0.7 Attack per Second
to 45% to hit an extra additional time; -0.7 Attack per Second
25% to hit another extra additional time; -0.6 Attack per Second
to A separate 25% to hit an extra additional time; -0.6 Attack per Second
Buff -> sniper: IF CRIT HIGHER 100% DEAL EXTRA DOUBLE DAMAGE
to IF CRIT is HIGHER, DOUBLE DAMAGE * 2 (I assume this is what the effect is doing. "Extra" is very vague as to how much more damage.)
Buff -> Berserk: WHEN YOUR HP lower 30% HEAL 1% PER 10% LOST HP
to WHEN YOUR HP is lower than 30% HEAL 1% PER 10% LOST HP (I assume the regen goes away if you somehow get back above 30% HP.)
This only covers what I see of the tree and buff tabs so far. Will get more another time. I also may be wrong in what I think a buff or something does. Feel free to clarify if I am making any wrong assumptions.
I did find this in the SP milestones, but there is something that can cause the icon to pop far before that point. The first time I saw it, I decided to farm the tier-R stuff before entering.
The trigger for this is: hitting 50 souls for the first time in an infinity opens Abyss D. Getting the 51st soul closes it. Getting 50 souls again after a rebirth does not retrigger this.
Managed to clear all current content, up to infinity 7 and stage 100, gotta say, I like this game alot, keep it up, it's good that not everything is spoonfed to the player and you gotta figure out a bit aswell, thanks alot of the fun
Ascension always provides a way to reset, you just hit the ascend button on the combat section. You need to be a high enough stage but the requirement never changes.
Getting to level 100 for rebirthing requires a mix of equipment tiers, souls, max level perk in tree & the ascension upgrade for max level.
Yep, that's the usual reaction. Took me a while to notice too, but on the bright side I got to 25 stages on my first run so I already had t2 unlocked cause of it xD
Duude i really like your game, but i couldn't figure out how to continue in radiation... all this game is scrolling down, why the heck did you chose to implement a side scroller there?
Radiation is just max everything out & get to level 700. You'll need to upgrade 2nd ring a decent bit as well as dive into Abyss D to make it to level 700, where you'll unlock infinity, the final (currently) bit of content in the game.
If you're confused on how to get mutagens, just read the info section of the game.
The problem was, that i did not see that there are more than 4 entries in radiation since it somehow is implemented to vertical scroll instead of horizontal scrolling
also i dont get it. reached 1st infinity, supposedly have some infinity points as the tab says, cant allocate em in tree, all infinity does in tree is reset allocated points kinda? also dont think the game is explained well at all. mutagens/radiation/celestials felt like wtf thing. and explanations if any only made em worse. figured em by sticking around and clicking and checking things. still not sure how corruption acts. yeap it hinders your max level supposedly, but what abyss d does? reduce it? increase it? lots of stuff that just poorly worded/explained or outright confusing. its like im playing the game in chinesse having zero idea whats going on. pressing some buttons seeing some things change, but generally noone can say for sure whats rly going on there
I don't quite understand the claims.I gave minimal information regarding all the events, I'm not going to lead anyone by the hand like a child. About Inf Tree, I'm kinda confusing what you mean Did you reach Abyss D? Everything is accessible and clear there. Ok. Write to me what you didn't understand or what seems unclear to you. Let everyone write what they don't understand, because I don't write information because it's obvious and there are those who don't understand it.It's difficult.
I guess you haven't noticed that the comments (here and elsewhere) are full of people complaining about the gibberish nonsense you've given us to try to figure out what's going on with your game.
Like, if that's intended and it's some kind of puzzle we're supposed to figure out, that's one thing. But it's not presented in that way.
There's a bit of broken english here & there in the explanations that make it hard to understand. Also a lot of people just want hand holding instead of learning how to play a game by themselves. I do think there's a lot that can be explained better tbh and I'm not really sure how to point that out cause of how much there is. I think if you can get someone native english to look over your explanations and cleans thing up, it would be a lot better.
Also information is kind of split up in a weird way. In example I find it weird that sniper says it double checks crits but you need to go to the info section & under buffs find the part that says "Double Check - If the first attempt is false, the check is repeated." I feel that you could either just better explain it in the buff to begin with or have that info accessible in the buff section instead of the info section.
For example make sniper instead say: "Tries one more time if initial crit-chance fails" (I'm not a fan of this wording either but I think it's better than "double checks crit-chance")
"hand holding instead of learning how to play a game by themselves" - Then some people will think that I think they are idiots. I think this will be an eternal problem.No matter how elegantly I describe it, there will still be those who do not understand something.Someone needs to be shown a video so that he understands it.
yeap. abyss d sure, like 59 stage, i did drop into infinity after, inf tab shows me 60 points, in tree theres infinity symbols when click on them - point cost, but points i seem to have in infinity doesnt exist here. its confusing
I feel the infinity buff you can choose 1 (on infi2 you can choose 2) is pretty lackluster for the cost, on damage it's pretty good, most other stats are a downgrade tho, even on lvl 700 (cap)
Stage skip also works with 800+ points invested into it, but i do not understand why there is a downgrade for such a hard to gain buff (like crit dmg is a negative dps compared to not buffing it)
- so some info can be gained, but there is also alot of bugs, so the question is always, is this intended or is this bugged
I haven't gotten to the stage skip part you're talking about but I do agree that the infinity buff to tree is p. lackluster. It's an expensive amount of points for a pretty bad upgrade?
I feel the game is pretty easy to learn. There are some things that are communicated poorly though, I do agree on that. But for example, abyss D is just an endless abyss mode that gives you benefits based on your further stage.. you can find this out by literally just reading it, it says you get smtg at stage 20. Then when you reach stage 20 it reveals the buff & reveals the next stage requirement.
You can find out more info in the info section about corruption as well as just hovering over it below your level iirc. The main most important part is that it reduces your max level above level 300.
Mutagens/radiation/celestials were all explained pretty okay in the info section of the game. Celestials have a chance to spawn based on your danger value, you can gain mutagens from enemies above certain stage levels, higher tier mutagens are more valuable. Radiation is just spend mutagens into perks, ez pz.
Notice when you make a skill infinity in the tree, it says it costs P and not IP. You're still spending normal **P**oints, ya know.. the same points for the rest of the tree?
there should be a way to force afk off. game constantly goes afk in chrome if not active window making levelling a pain. sometimes rarely you want afk yeap just to grind soulchance maybe. but mostly its really harmful and xp you get while afk nowhere near one you should get normally
also game should remember log filter selection when you switch to other menus. its not that major as previews issue. still
afk kill speed is actually only an issue in early game. as xp/levels. its unpleasant yeap but bearable. generally just dont like that you have to have game active to be out of afk for any meaningful activity.
why is the buff called invisible not working when i equip it like i look at the enemy's damage and my block and every single time they do damage. even if 2X my block would fully block their damage it never does.
There used to be a hover text that would tell you this, but I'm not finding it anymore. Once you reach stage 10, the currently active buffs get locked in and you can't change them until you reset in some way. You gain experience on your active buffs from stage 20 onward.
Its the same issue with almost every "idle" game at this point. They have very solid systems in place, but the balance is beyond broken. Its not satisfying at all. If the intention is to get people to play online non stop for 40 hours straight each session, sure, this game would be the top. But thats not what the players want.
It just needs A LOT of balance work. Speeding almost every single aspect up by double... It'd still be quite a slow game. Its just painfully slow, thats it.
Too grindy for too little benefit. Ascending and rebirthing feel terrible and I don't really feel like I gain any power. I also have to fill out the stupid tree every time. Some automation would be nice.
there should be a way to go back zones since it feels like it's very possible to softlock yourself via needing the soul enemies to progress, but not being strong enough to kill them.
I think ive been playing for about 2 weeks now, not very consistentily though. I think the biggest feedback i have right now is the game feels bad in i guess the midgame stage? Ive completed the first 2 pages of acension upgrades, beat the first abyss, and now all I can really do is increase rebirth tier and very slowly farm rebirth points, getting past lvl 150 is ridiculously slow imo, I think there's needs to be more bonus exp at this point or maybe higher exp scaling for higher stages, maybe both. I also think maybe rebirth points go up a little too slow, but that probably wouldn't feel so bad if I could keep getting higher lvls without it being so slow. I appreciate the game though, I don't expect it to be finished in a couple weeks or anything and I like longer games like this. I also think it doesn't feel too active, like I don't feel like I'm making no progress by not constantly playing, it's just somewhat slower than it could be.
I feel stuck at Abyss T1, Rebirth T10. Over the past few days I've been grinding Rebirth Points pretty actively and I'm only just getting to 1000 Points. Somewhere between 200 and 1000 points there needs to be some scaling increase because the grind to 1250 to get the increased Rebirth Point scaling just feels awful.
I would love a proper stats screen. Keeping track of my crit rate and damage, damage multiplier, xp multiplier, buff xp multiplier, etc becomes overly cumbersome the further into the game I get.
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I just noticed the timer for the Conquer buff is slow. Each second takes 20% longer than it should. So 1000 seconds, (or 16 minutes, 40 seconds), in reality takes 20 minutes!
It seems the Levels you get from the "Increase level while your level is below x% of max level" do not give points for the Tree. Is this intended?
If there is one relatively minor change I could get you to make, after a reset, whether Ascending, Rebirthing, leaving the Abyss, or hitting Infinity, please disable the GCNP. Nothing more frustrating than realizing you forgot to disable it and have been sitting at Stage 1 for the past 5 minutes...
The infinite leveling you unlock for the Tree after reaching Infinity is a fundamentally broken system. The high costs and low Infinite scaling for every single skill except Strength makes activating it for 95% of a run useless. Strength is the only one that is stronger with Infinite active, at least until you unlock Tier 5 Tree, where Strength's base scaling is high enough to surpass Infinite scaling. At that point it becomes worthless to activate any Infinite because, even if there were a Perk that becomes viable to activate Infinite scaling for, it's more valuable to keep the excess points for The Lord than to spend them.
And this makes the fact that every tier of Infinity lets you activate another Infinite scaling in the Tree the most worthless unlock in the entire game. If one Infinite is bordering on useless, then a second actually is useless, let alone a third or more...
You need to lower the cost for each level of Infinite for other Perks or increase their scaling. Otherwise this system is a complete waste.
yeah, i was thinking the same. i think a simple fix will be "for every infinity you get +1 tree point per level" so infinity 1 give you +2, infinity 7 give you +8
That's what I thought would happen. The first Infinity does give you 2 points per level, but the subsequent Tiers of Infinity don't increase it. Was honestly disappointed when I realized it didn't give another point...
Another Idea(how i interpreted the system first from the limited description): Upgrades persist until you infinity again. you end the ascension/rebirth with 5 levels in Wisdom? You will have those 5 levels at the start of the next run. No un-spec, maybe increasing costs? ending every run with another level in racer sounds like fun after like 50 runs
Would this be broken? Maybe.
Edit: actually, at least Strength and Racer would need hard limits and/or scaling costs on how many "Infinite levels" you coud have with this, because getting to 1000x damage and 10 APS sounds like it would break the game in half. anything else is a lot less broken
Hey there,
I've started playing a week or two ago and I must say, great work!
What I liked the most is that progress really feels earned and reaching a new prestige layer gives quite good powers.
I can't say what it is, but the game got me hooked pretty good.
That said, I've almost finished all content the game has to offer at the moment (trying to reach all Infinity milestones), so I'm looking forward for more.
I also have some suggestions for QoL features/changes.
There are also some typos here and there, but it isn't a big deal. If you find some, just fix them, no biggie :D
Thanks for this experience, I've enjoyed it a lot!
any idea what prevents reaching stage 40 ?
always get an impossible foe at max kill/max kill zone 5/5 stage 39 that will delete my kill count on last zone
You die on the stage boss which resets your kill count on the zone
thank you. Not sure if Im messing with my buffs ... any 3 buffs you would recommend for such boss fight ? currently Im set on combo[T3] extras life [T2] and sniper[T1].
Also just to make sure does picking a formation for boss fight makes any sense, seems cutting half of 2 stats harms more than the benefit of buff 1 ...
Well I think there are a couple of strategies for beating stage 39 boss for the first time and it's fun to work one out for yourself!
I'd say grinding rebirth points is the most beneficial as you unlock more buff slots, raise your stats and max lvl.
For a high damage, high risk, high reward based run you can choose First strike [T3], Combo and Conquer with T2 formation
For a more tank build maybe you could try Invisible [T3], Blood art [T3] and maybe Conquer as well with T1 formation
I guess T1 formation is good with the blood art buff as it heals you based on your max HP but overall I don't see many situations where T1 or T3 formation is useful.
Anyways, having any more buffs active is a nice addon. Good luck and have fun :D
thank you :)
what is the equipment t3 set???
nvm i found out
Mouse over the i in equipment tab. Took me forever to find, lol.
First strike doesn't work for the next fight if you die.
Simply absolute cinema
By the way would you like some help with translation? Would improve the overall quality IMO
hot to reach eternity bright?
Why can't I activate another buff even though I have a second buff slot?
Once you hit a certain stage they get locked. I think it starts with 10.
you can only activate buff if you are under stage 10.
*Stage increases by 10 with each abyss tier, so by the point you unlock space that becomes stage 40 instead with Abyss tier 3
I first want to say thank you so much for making this game. I really appreciate the fun I have had.
Any chance you can list the infinity debuffs in the info tab. Hard to remember exactly what the debuffs are.
There seems to be a bug with first strike where if you die, the buff bonus does not apply when you revive for the next fight.
The descriptions for some things could be better.
In tree -> conquer description box: "Stage killing require scalles better".
This can be improved to "Stage kill requirement scales better".
If you want a list of where descriptions can be improved, feel free to let me know.
Ty. I'll keep these notes in mind next update.
"If you want a list of where descriptions can be improved, feel free to let me know" - I wouldn't mind such help if it doesn't bother you
Tree -> Reset description: The recover is going faster
to Recovery from death is faster.
Tree -> The Lord: Increased soul appear based on unspent points
to Increase soul appear chance based on unspent points
Buff -> Invisible: 33% that your DEF will be double when enemy hits you
to 33% that your DEF doubles when an enemy hits you
35% to block the enemy attack to 1 DMG
to 35% to block an enemy attack to 1 DMG
Buff -> First Strike: Deal double DMG by First attack
to First attack deals double DMG
First attack can STUN Enemy for 1 second
to First attack will STUN Enemy for 1 second (if there is no stun immunity for enemies)
Buff -> Traveller*: +1% DMG per COMBO [MAX- 30]; +1 COMBO per hit; COMBO Resets if you was hit by enemy
to +1% DMG per COMBO [MAX- 30]; +1 COMBO per hit; COMBO Resets if you get hit by an enemy
*Traveller is spelled Traveler
+1.25% DMG per COMBO [MAX- 40]; +1 COMBO per hit[50% to get additional COMBO]; COMBO Resets 75% if you was hit by enemy
to +1.25% DMG per COMBO [MAX- 40]; +1 COMBO per hit[50% to get additional COMBO]; COMBO Resets 75% if you get hit by an enemy
+1.5% DMG per COMBO [MAX- 50]; +1.5 COMBO per hit; COMBO Resets 50% if you was hit by enemy
to +1.5% DMG per COMBO [MAX- 50]; +1.5 COMBO per hit; COMBO Resets 50% if you get hit by an enemy
+1.75% DMG per COMBO [MAX- 100]; +2 COMBO per hit; COMBO Resets if you was killed by enemy; +0.3 Attack per Second when COMBO is MAX
to +1.75% DMG per COMBO [MAX- 100]; +2 COMBO per hit; COMBO Resets if you get killed by an enemy; +0.3 Attack per Second when COMBO is MAX
Buff -> Blood Art: Heal HP equals to stage passed per second
to Heal HP equal to current stage per second (I assume the HP regen is equal to current stage)
Heal 5% HP when you kill enemy
to Heal 5% HP when you kill an enemy
Heal 2% from Max HP + [Stages Passed] after each Attack
to Heal 2% of Max HP + [current stage] after each Attack
Buff -> Fast Slash: You can hit additional time; -0.8 Attack per Second
to Hit an additional time; -0.8 Attack per Second (Assuming you always hit an additional time first tier)
45% to hit extra time; -0.7 Attack per Second
to 45% to hit an extra additional time; -0.7 Attack per Second
25% to hit another extra additional time; -0.6 Attack per Second
to A separate 25% to hit an extra additional time; -0.6 Attack per Second
Buff -> sniper: IF CRIT HIGHER 100% DEAL EXTRA DOUBLE DAMAGE
to IF CRIT is HIGHER, DOUBLE DAMAGE * 2 (I assume this is what the effect is doing. "Extra" is very vague as to how much more damage.)
Buff -> Berserk: WHEN YOUR HP lower 30% HEAL 1% PER 10% LOST HP
to WHEN YOUR HP is lower than 30% HEAL 1% PER 10% LOST HP (I assume the regen goes away if you somehow get back above 30% HP.)
This only covers what I see of the tree and buff tabs so far. Will get more another time. I also may be wrong in what I think a buff or something does. Feel free to clarify if I am making any wrong assumptions.
Please let me know what you think of the current list, and if I am making any mistakes.
I'm not the one to vouch for mistakes, but it looks great. Thanks for the work.
I did make a mistake.
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IF CRIT HIGHER 100% DEAL EXTRA DOUBLE DAMAGE
IF CRIT is HIGHER, DOUBLE DAMAGE * 2 (I assume this is what the effect is doing. "Extra" is very vague as to how much more damage.)
It should be.
IF CRIT is HIGHER than 100%, DAMAGE * 2 (I assume this is what the effect is doing. "Extra double damage = DAMAGE * 2")
What's the trigger for Abyss D? I had it at one point, didn't enter, and now it's gone. lvl 324 and 54 souls with most of tier-R and rad done
I did find this in the SP milestones, but there is something that can cause the icon to pop far before that point. The first time I saw it, I decided to farm the tier-R stuff before entering.
The trigger for this is: hitting 50 souls for the first time in an infinity opens Abyss D. Getting the 51st soul closes it. Getting 50 souls again after a rebirth does not retrigger this.
i didn't get any information on the game of.. what is formation T1 ? can someone explain please ?
It's the green heart that pops up in combat. if you hover over it, it shows what it changes.
ah yes ! it wasn't clear :') thank you ! o/
what is the actual use of combo like i can only hit them once and they die or i hit them and even with the stun of first strike they still hit me
very confusing
your combo builds up. its the little lightning icon under your attack bar. per stack you get extra dmg which resets (by 50% t3) when you get hit
I like this game. I had to use Vue.js Devtools to find the willpower to keep going sometime around when I got 100ish Rebirth prestige currency.
How is D-Atlas unlocked?
coming next patch
how did you unlock the level 800+ infinity achievement when 700 is max? :)
if you get 700 + 100
hot to reach eternity bright?
Managed to clear all current content, up to infinity 7 and stage 100, gotta say, I like this game alot, keep it up, it's good that not everything is spoonfed to the player and you gotta figure out a bit aswell, thanks alot of the fun
I think I am hardlocked
I can no longer progress, cannot kill the current enemy and improve / upgrade anything.
I cannot reach level 100 for rebirth and Ascension no longer seems to provide a
way to reset the current stage?
Ascension always provides a way to reset, you just hit the ascend button on the combat section. You need to be a high enough stage but the requirement never changes.
Getting to level 100 for rebirthing requires a mix of equipment tiers, souls, max level perk in tree & the ascension upgrade for max level.
Thanks, I thought the ascension button would be in the Ascension menu, I did not notice you could click the blue icon at the combat menu
Yep, that's the usual reaction. Took me a while to notice too, but on the bright side I got to 25 stages on my first run so I already had t2 unlocked cause of it xD
one QOL suggestion and one bug
please keep the log selected when you switch between different tabs and back to the combat surface.
when you export and import, you can regain IP infinitely.
Duude i really like your game, but i couldn't figure out how to continue in radiation... all this game is scrolling down, why the heck did you chose to implement a side scroller there?
Radiation is just max everything out & get to level 700. You'll need to upgrade 2nd ring a decent bit as well as dive into Abyss D to make it to level 700, where you'll unlock infinity, the final (currently) bit of content in the game.
If you're confused on how to get mutagens, just read the info section of the game.
The problem was, that i did not see that there are more than 4 entries in radiation since it somehow is implemented to vertical scroll instead of horizontal scrolling
While I agree the horizontal scrolling was a bit odd, I thought it was p. obvious with the big scroll bar that moves to the right.
Might be the case under windows
also i dont get it. reached 1st infinity, supposedly have some infinity points as the tab says, cant allocate em in tree, all infinity does in tree is reset allocated points kinda? also dont think the game is explained well at all. mutagens/radiation/celestials felt like wtf thing. and explanations if any only made em worse. figured em by sticking around and clicking and checking things. still not sure how corruption acts. yeap it hinders your max level supposedly, but what abyss d does? reduce it? increase it? lots of stuff that just poorly worded/explained or outright confusing. its like im playing the game in chinesse having zero idea whats going on. pressing some buttons seeing some things change, but generally noone can say for sure whats rly going on there
I don't quite understand the claims. I gave minimal information regarding all the events, I'm not going to lead anyone by the hand like a child.
About Inf Tree, I'm kinda confusing what you mean
Did you reach Abyss D? Everything is accessible and clear there.
Ok. Write to me what you didn't understand or what seems unclear to you. Let everyone write what they don't understand, because I don't write information because it's obvious and there are those who don't understand it. It's difficult.
I guess you haven't noticed that the comments (here and elsewhere) are full of people complaining about the gibberish nonsense you've given us to try to figure out what's going on with your game.
Like, if that's intended and it's some kind of puzzle we're supposed to figure out, that's one thing. But it's not presented in that way.
There's a bit of broken english here & there in the explanations that make it hard to understand. Also a lot of people just want hand holding instead of learning how to play a game by themselves. I do think there's a lot that can be explained better tbh and I'm not really sure how to point that out cause of how much there is. I think if you can get someone native english to look over your explanations and cleans thing up, it would be a lot better.
Also information is kind of split up in a weird way. In example I find it weird that sniper says it double checks crits but you need to go to the info section & under buffs find the part that says "Double Check - If the first attempt is false, the check is repeated." I feel that you could either just better explain it in the buff to begin with or have that info accessible in the buff section instead of the info section.
For example make sniper instead say: "Tries one more time if initial crit-chance fails" (I'm not a fan of this wording either but I think it's better than "double checks crit-chance")
"hand holding instead of learning how to play a game by themselves" - Then some people will think that I think they are idiots.
I think this will be an eternal problem. No matter how elegantly I describe it, there will still be those who do not understand something. Someone needs to be shown a video so that he understands it.
yeap. abyss d sure, like 59 stage, i did drop into infinity after, inf tab shows me 60 points, in tree theres infinity symbols when click on them - point cost, but points i seem to have in infinity doesnt exist here. its confusing
I feel the infinity buff you can choose 1 (on infi2 you can choose 2) is pretty lackluster for the cost, on damage it's pretty good, most other stats are a downgrade tho, even on lvl 700 (cap)
Stage skip also works with 800+ points invested into it, but i do not understand why there is a downgrade for such a hard to gain buff (like crit dmg is a negative dps compared to not buffing it)
- so some info can be gained, but there is also alot of bugs, so the question is always, is this intended or is this bugged
I haven't gotten to the stage skip part you're talking about but I do agree that the infinity buff to tree is p. lackluster. It's an expensive amount of points for a pretty bad upgrade?
I feel the game is pretty easy to learn. There are some things that are communicated poorly though, I do agree on that. But for example, abyss D is just an endless abyss mode that gives you benefits based on your further stage.. you can find this out by literally just reading it, it says you get smtg at stage 20. Then when you reach stage 20 it reveals the buff & reveals the next stage requirement.
You can find out more info in the info section about corruption as well as just hovering over it below your level iirc. The main most important part is that it reduces your max level above level 300.
Mutagens/radiation/celestials were all explained pretty okay in the info section of the game. Celestials have a chance to spawn based on your danger value, you can gain mutagens from enemies above certain stage levels, higher tier mutagens are more valuable. Radiation is just spend mutagens into perks, ez pz.
Notice when you make a skill infinity in the tree, it says it costs P and not IP. You're still spending normal **P**oints, ya know.. the same points for the rest of the tree?
How do you cheat on this? I'm a lazy fuck
Save game, close tab, change system clock, start game again. Rinse repeat to get offline progress.
there should be a way to force afk off. game constantly goes afk in chrome if not active window making levelling a pain. sometimes rarely you want afk yeap just to grind soulchance maybe. but mostly its really harmful and xp you get while afk nowhere near one you should get normally
also game should remember log filter selection when you switch to other menus. its not that major as previews issue. still
I actually level up way faster with afk than manually grinding, unless you're in an area where you aren't killing things quick enough?
afk kill speed is actually only an issue in early game. as xp/levels. its unpleasant yeap but bearable. generally just dont like that you have to have game active to be out of afk for any meaningful activity.
what is EVO Loot?
Your rebirth loot muti based on your rebirth tier
why is the buff called invisible not working when i equip it like i look at the enemy's damage and my block and every single time they do damage. even if 2X my block would fully block their damage it never does.
i don't know if it's a bug but COMBO buff don't gain exp after T3.
its because the current max buff tier is 3
but before i infity i get to t4. it's feel terrible like the dangle keys in front of my but i can't grape them.
you can unlock T4 later on after you are in space
really? nice
How do you change buff? Clicking on active and then on inactive doesnt work?
There used to be a hover text that would tell you this, but I'm not finding it anymore. Once you reach stage 10, the currently active buffs get locked in and you can't change them until you reset in some way. You gain experience on your active buffs from stage 20 onward.
Thanks
They actually changed it in the recent update. The Stage you can no longer change your buffs is now 10+(10xAbyss Tier).
i shall only comment positivity over this game. tis' good
I'm not big on numbers being abbreviated when it makes it harder to judge how your attack is scaling against enemy HP.
What/Where is "formation"?
Formations show up as togglable symbols on the Hero stat box in the Combat screen.
Its the same issue with almost every "idle" game at this point. They have very solid systems in place, but the balance is beyond broken. Its not satisfying at all. If the intention is to get people to play online non stop for 40 hours straight each session, sure, this game would be the top. But thats not what the players want.
It just needs A LOT of balance work. Speeding almost every single aspect up by double... It'd still be quite a slow game. Its just painfully slow, thats it.
It is slow, but it's not bad balancing, if things slow down too much, you probably have to do another system
People rely on guides too much lately, that figuring it stuff themselves is seen as something negative, its a shame
Too grindy for too little benefit. Ascending and rebirthing feel terrible and I don't really feel like I gain any power. I also have to fill out the stupid tree every time. Some automation would be nice.
i very much agree
very good game but all of my progress got reset very sad
there should be a way to go back zones since it feels like it's very possible to softlock yourself via needing the soul enemies to progress, but not being strong enough to kill them.
edit: it appears I'm just blind
So you mean like, ascension?
yeah, exactly like ascension, i'm just blind lmao
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Yo, ebic update my man.
I think ive been playing for about 2 weeks now, not very consistentily though. I think the biggest feedback i have right now is the game feels bad in i guess the midgame stage? Ive completed the first 2 pages of acension upgrades, beat the first abyss, and now all I can really do is increase rebirth tier and very slowly farm rebirth points, getting past lvl 150 is ridiculously slow imo, I think there's needs to be more bonus exp at this point or maybe higher exp scaling for higher stages, maybe both. I also think maybe rebirth points go up a little too slow, but that probably wouldn't feel so bad if I could keep getting higher lvls without it being so slow. I appreciate the game though, I don't expect it to be finished in a couple weeks or anything and I like longer games like this. I also think it doesn't feel too active, like I don't feel like I'm making no progress by not constantly playing, it's just somewhat slower than it could be.
Also how do you get the t1 amulet prefix? Is it just not in the game yet? I dont see any way to unlock it.
I feel stuck at Abyss T1, Rebirth T10. Over the past few days I've been grinding Rebirth Points pretty actively and I'm only just getting to 1000 Points. Somewhere between 200 and 1000 points there needs to be some scaling increase because the grind to 1250 to get the increased Rebirth Point scaling just feels awful.
The game is bugged that quitting abyss by rebirth does not clear abyss flags, leaving player's level exp significantly handicapped.
I would love a proper stats screen. Keeping track of my crit rate and damage, damage multiplier, xp multiplier, buff xp multiplier, etc becomes overly cumbersome the further into the game I get.